Definitely warmer that expected

I usually have a hard time with sizes as my waist is 31 and my legs are long. I picked a 32 and they feel a little baggy, but I don't mind. The design of the pants is great, with two big pockets above knees, a zip and velcro at the bottom to easily put them over your boots.. an adjustable waist. The knee protectors fall exactly in place when seated.

Great pair of trousers

So far so good. They're warm enough that even mid December I can wear shorts underneath and don't need the thermal liner. I haven't tested them in full torrential rain but the usual pour down has come and gone and so far they've left me bone dry. I wasn't a fan of the suspenders but they're heavy and so slide down if you need to walk so I use them now. Last thing is the knee protection, it's way too low and needs adjusting. It's more shin protection when you get it. There is a small Velcro section at the bottom of each pant leg, open it and reach up between the lining to adjust the knee protection. They're Velcro'd on so you just need to pull em off then move em up.

Alpinestars Quality

I bought these more of a summer / spring pants, they are not bulky but then not thin either, they are just right with a good feeling of being able to protect you. They are a close fit so be sure with your sizing, but even being a close fit they have good flexing in the areas you need and feel super comfortable. I bout the short length even though I'm 6'1" as Alpinestars always seem to be very long in the leg... or is it that my waist is too wide for my legs ! Anyway really well made as you'd expect, great value and definitely a must if you want to use as a jacket / trouser 2 piece for a summer / spring set up.