I wouldn t normally buy this product, but though, what the hell, treat yourself. I wanted something heavy enough to protect me, plus light enough to walk around shows and just generally look good ? tried these on at Sportsbikeshop shop, I m usually a 32, but tried on 34 and they fit better than anything else I ve got knocking around in draws. Honestly, they are the best buy I ve had since getting a new bike, love them. Go on, treat yourself , you know it makes sense?